Notes

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Joy Division studio sessions


(1) "The Warsaw demo"
Pennine Sound Studios, Oldham. July 18, 1977
Producer: Unknown
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
INSIDE THE LINE Not released These demos were recorded when JD were still called "Warsaw".
GUTZ Not released
AT A LATER DATE Not released
THE KILL Not released Different to the one on "Still"
YOU'RE NO GOOD FOR ME Not released



One or more songs from this session can be found on the following bootlegs:

WARSAW-The Ideal Beginning 7"
WARSAW-The Ideal Beginning 7"EP (Fan Club edition) all 5 songs
WARSAW-The Ideal Beginning 12"
WARSAW-At The Beginning 12"EP - all 5 songs
Warsaw 7" picture disc
From The End To The Beginning one-sided 7"
Warsaw LP (Retropop issue)
WARSAW-The Ideal LP
Failures LP
Pearl Harbor! LP
You're No Good For Me LP
A Retrospective On The Vinyl Pain And Pleasure Of Joy Division LP
A Retrospective - Part II LP
Inside The Line LP - all 5 songs
WARSAW-An Ideal For Killing LP - all 5 songs
A Darkness In My Soul 2LP
Warsaw CD (AC 100) - all 5 songs
Warsaw CD (Retropop 159088)
Warsaw CD (Aulica A156) - all 5 songs
WARSAW-Warsaw CD (MPG 74034) - all 5 songs
Remains CD - all 5 songs
Closer To The Unknown CD - all 5 songs
Joy Division book+7"
Joy Division book+3"CD
From The Centre Of The City book+7" - all 5 songs
From The Centre Of The City book+3"CD - all 5 songs
All The Lyrics book+CD









(2) "An Ideal For Living" session
Pennine Sound Studios, Oldham. December 1977
Producer: Unknown
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
WARSAW An Ideal For Living These songs were recorded around the time Warsaw changed their name to Joy Division
NO LOVE LOST An Ideal For Living
LEADERS OF MEN An Ideal For Living
FAILURES (Of The Modern Man) An Ideal For Living

The songs from this session can be found on the following bootlegs:

An Ideal For Living 7"EP - counterfeit and bootleg issues
An Ideal For Living 12"EP - bootleg issues
Joy Division mini-LP
A Retrospective On The Vinyl Pain And Pleasure Of Joy Division LP
WARSAW-An Ideal For Killing LP
Electric Funeral 2LP
Greatest Hits CD - 3 songs only








(3) Unreleased album. The RCA sessions.
Arrow Studios, Manchester. May 3rd and 4th 1978.
Producers: John Anderson, Bob Auger, Richard Searling (& Joy Division?)
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
THE DRAWBACK Heart And Soul aka "All Of This For You"
LEADERS OF MEN Not released
WALKED IN LINE Not released The 11 songs from these sessions were supposed to have been Joy Division's first album, but the deal fell through. All these songs can be found on many different bootleg releases, most of which seem to be called "Warsaw".
FAILURES Not released
NOVELTY Not released
NO LOVE LOST Not released
TRANSMISSION Not released
ICE AGE Not released
INTERZONE Heart And Soul
WARSAW Not released
SHADOWPLAY Heart And Soul



one or more songs from this session can be found on the following bootlegs (most lp/cd issues listed feature all 11 songs):

atrocity exhibition (warsaw-all of this for you) 7"
warsaw lp+7"ep (see "warsaw lps" listing for full details)
warsaw lp (see "warsaw lps" listing for full details)
warsaw-the ideal lp
warszawa lp+7"ep
failures lp
pearl harbor! lp
interzone lp
warsaw-an ideal for killing lp
a darkness in my soul 2lp/cd
testament 2-lp/cd
box file 3-lp boxset
warsaw-warsaw cd
joy division-warsaw cd
warsaw studio demos 1978 & 1979 cd
digital glass cd
greatest hits cd
remains cd
closer to the unknown cd
lost treasures cd
house of dolls lp








(4) "a factory sample" session
cargo studios, rochdale. october 11, 1978
producer: martin hannett (this is the first time he produced for them)
tracks 1st official release notes
digital a factory sample
glass a factory sample

One or both songs from this session can be found on the following bootlegs:

Le Terme LP
Joy Division LP
John Peel Sessions 1979-1980 LP
Love Will Tear Us Apart LP
Unnamed LP
The Raven Has Chosen Its Resting Place LP
Enigma LP
A Retrospective On The Vinyl Pain And Pleasure Of Joy Division LP
The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore LP
Box File 3-LP box-set
Inquisited Again 7"
Greatest Hits CD








(5) John Peel session 1
BBC Studios, Maida Vale, London. January 31, 1979
Producer: Bob Sargeant
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
EXERCISE ONE The Peel Sessions 1 Until its release in 1986, this remained the most requested session ever recorded for the John Peel show
INSIGHT The Peel Sessions 1
TRANSMISSION The Peel Sessions 1
SHE'S LOST CONTROL The Peel Sessions 1



One or more songs from this session can be found on the following bootlegs:

J.D. - Dead Souls/Exercise One 7"
Joy Division 7"EP
Warsaw 7"EP
Warsaw LP+7"EP
Warsaw LP (Retropop issue)
Warszawa LP+7"EP
Joy Division LP
John Peel Sessions 1979-1980 LP
Love Will Tear Us Apart LP
Unnamed LP
The Raven Has Chosen Its Resting Place LP
Enigma LP
How Many Echoes Are There... LP
Shadow Play LP
Le Terme LP
The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore LP
Box File 3-LP box-set
Warsaw CD (Fun Multiplication II)
Warsaw CD (Retropop 159088)
Warsaw Studio Demos 1978 & 1979 CD








(6) Genetic Demos
Eden Studios, London. March 4, 1979
Producer: Martin Rushent
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
GLASS Heart And Soul Possibly due to the lack of studio time these songs are played in a rather straight-forward and almost "business-like" manner.

Fans were delighted when the last track finally surfaced in Aug 2002
TRANSMISSION Heart And Soul
ICE AGE Heart And Soul
INSIGHT Heart And Soul
DIGITAL Not released

Note: There was some confusion when we all thought that Exercise One was recorded at this session. This was because the tape that surfaced in 2002 with Digital had Exercise One right after it. However in 2004 a low generation recording of the Altrincham, Bowdon Vale (Youth) Club 14 Mar 79 soundboard turned up - and it was clear that the Exercise One recording was part of that concert.
One or more songs from this session can be found on the following bootlegs:

Soul and Heart LP - Glass / Transmission / Ice Age / Insight
Performances01" 2LP+7"EP - Digital








(7) "Unknown Pleasures" sessions
Strawberry Studios, Stockport. April 1979
Producers: Martin 'Zero' Hannett
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
DISORDER Unknown Pleasures JD's second recording with Mr. Hannett at the controls, and the results were possibly even better than the first time around.
DAY OF THE LORDS Unknown Pleasures
CANDIDATE Unknown Pleasures
INSIGHT Unknown Pleasures
NEW DAWN FADES Unknown Pleasures
SHE'S LOST CONTROL Unknown Pleasures
SHADOWPLAY Unknown Pleasures
WILDERNESS Unknown Pleasures
INTERZONE Unknown Pleasures
I REMEMBER NOTHING Unknown Pleasures
AUTO-SUGGESTION Earcom 2
FROM SAFETY TO WHERE...? Earcom 2
EXERCISE ONE Still
THE ONLY MISTAKE Still See also session No. 17
WALKED IN LINE Still See also session No. 17
THE KILL Still See also session No. 17

Notes: Producer Martin Hannett later stated that they ran out of time in the studio, and the "Unknown Pleasures" album would have sounded slightly differently if he had been able to spend some more time working on it. Maybe this is why some of the songs that weren't going to be on the album didn't get finished. If you compares the finished version of "Walked In Line" on "Still" with the unfinished version on the "Heart And Soul" boxset you can see why they felt it necessary to add some "post production", or at least some more guitar to these songs.



Most of these songs are not available on any bootlegs for obvious reasons. Here are the details about the few that are:

Joy Division mini-LP - Auto-Suggestion / From Safety...
Autosuggestion 7" - Auto-Suggestion (obviously!)
The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore LP - Auto-Suggestion / "From Safety To Where...?
A Retrospective On The Vinyl Pain And Pleasure Of Joy Division LP - Auto-Suggestion / From Safety To Where...? / Candidate (out-take)** / New Dawn Fades (out-take)**
Inquisited Again 7" - Auto-Suggestion
WARSAW-An Ideal For Killing LP - The Kill
Greatest Hits CD - Disorder / Shadowplay / From Safety To Where...?
** These "out-takes" are reportedly different mixes done by Hannett during the "Unknown Pleasures" sessions. This has never been confirmed though.
On the "A Retrospective - Part II" LP these two out-takes are "mastered properly" according to the sleeve notes - meaning unlike on the "A Retrospective On...." LP presumably.










(8) Piccadilly Radio Session
Pennine Sound Studios, Oldham. June 4, 1979
Producer: Stuart James
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
THESE DAYS Heart And Soul Not much is known about this session, or if it was even aired.
CANDIDATE Heart And Soul
THE ONLY MISTAKE Heart And Soul
CHANCE Heart And Soul Working title for Atmosphere
ATROCITY EXHIBITION Not released

One or more songs from this session can be found on the following bootlegs:

Atmosphere LP - features all 5 songs
At The Moonlight Club LP
Soul And Heart LP
Inside The Line LP
Electric Funeral 2LP - features all 5 songs
Performances01 2LP+7"EP
Digital Glass CD - features all 5 songs
Candidate 7" - features all 5 songs
Remains CD
Closer To The Unknown CD
Lost Treasures CD
Love Will Tear Us Apart 7" pic disc - These Days








(9) "Transmission" sessions 1
Central Sound Studios, Manchester. Mid July, 1979
Producer: Martin Hannett
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
TRANSMISSION Not released The first unsuccessful attempt at recording songs for a new single. These are not the versions on the Transmission 7" single (see next session).
NOVELTY Not released
DEAD SOULS Heart and Soul
SOMETHING MUST BREAK Heart and Soul

All four songs from this session can be found on the following bootlegs (unless noted):

Atmosphere LP
Death Trip LP
Soul And Heart LP - Something Must Break / Dead Souls
Inside The Line LP - Something Must Break
Performances01 2LP+7"EP - Transmission / Novelty
Digital Glass CD
Remains CD - Something Must Break / Transmission
Closer To The Unknown CD - Something Must Break / Transmission
Lost Treasures CD
British Underground compilation LP - Novelty








(10) "Transmission" sessions 2
Strawberry Studios, Stockport. July 28 - August 4, 1979
Producer: Martin Hannett
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
TRANSMISSION Transmission 7" On the second attempt the single was recorded successfully
NOVELTY Transmission 7"


Both these songs have found their way onto at least one bootleg - despite having been issued officially many times and still being readily available in various formats

Greatest Hits CD








(11) "Sordide Sentimental" session
Cargo Studios, Rochdale. October-November 1979
Producer: Martin Hannett
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
ATMOSPHERE Licht Und Blindheit
DEAD SOULS Licht Und Blindheit
ICE AGE Still


One or more songs from this session can be found on the following bootlegs:

Licht Und Blindheit 7" counterfeit reissues
J.D. - Dead Souls/Exercise One 7"
Joy Division LP - Dead Souls"
John Peel Sessions 1979-1980 LP - Dead Souls
Love Will Tear Us Apart LP - Dead Souls
Unnamed LP - Dead Souls
The Raven Has Chosen Its Resting Place LP - Dead Souls
Le Terme LP - Dead Souls
Box File 3-LP box-set - Dead Souls
Greatest Hits CD -Atmosphere and Dead Souls
Closer To The Unknown CD - Dead Souls








(12) John Peel session 2
BBC Studios, Maida Vale, London. November 26, 1979
Producer: Tony Wilson
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
THE SOUND OF MUSIC The Peel Sessions 2 Like the first John Peel session it was one of the most requested ever until its release in 1987.
TWENTY FOUR HOURS The Peel Sessions 2
COLONY The Peel Sessions 2
LOVE WILL TEAR US APART The Peel Sessions 2



One or more songs from this session can be found on the following bootlegs:

Autosuggestion 7"
Joy Division 7" EP
Solitary Demands 7" EP
Shadow Play LP
How Many Echoes Are There... LP
The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore LP
Joy Division LP
John Peel Sessions 1979-1980 LP
Love Will Tear Us Apart LP
Unnamed LP
The Raven Has Chosen Its Resting Place LP
Enigma LP
One Size Fits All compilation LP - Colony
Le Terme LP
Box File 3-LP box-set
Greatest Hits CD








(13) "Love Will Tear Us Apart" session 1
Pennine Sound Studios, Oldham. January 8th 1980 (not March 1980 as some accounts state)
Producer: Martin Hannett
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
THESE DAYS Love Will Tear Us Apart On B side of the single
THE SOUND OF MUSIC Still
LOVE WILL TEAR US APART Love Will Tear Us Apart Faster version - on B side

Only a couple of bootlegs include songs from this session:

Inside The Line LP - Love Will Tear Us Apart
Greatest Hits CD - These Days / The Sound Of Music
Remains CD - Love Will Tear Us Apart
Closer To The Unknown CD - Love Will Tear Us Apart








(14) "Love Will Tear Us Apart" session 2
Strawberry Studios, Stockport. March 1980
Producer: Martin Hannett
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
LOVE WILL TEAR US APART Love Will Tear Us Apart Slower version - on A side
SHE'S LOST CONTROL She's Lost Control 12" US-only 12", b/w Atmosphere

Notes: Due to certain members of the band's misgivings about the version of "Love Will Tear Us Apart" recorded only a couple of months earlier (see session no. 13), they decided to have another go at recording the song. This somewhat slower take can be found on the "A"-side of the single, and remains the most well-known version of the song.

This version of "She's Lost Control" is also a re-recording rather than just a remix, and is noticeable for the extra final verse as well as the added keyboards. It features on the following official recordings:

1) fade out version (with the full keyboard solo) features on the following:
"FACUS2" & "FACUS2UK" 12" (all known versions except dutch test pressing)
"And Here Is The Young Man" compilation
"24 Hour Party People" soundtrack
"Substance" (some versions?)

2) full version (no fade out) with less keyboards is on the following:
"Martin" compilation
"Heart & Soul" box set
"Substance" (most versions)

also there are further variations:

3) mispressing with longer intro from master tape (syndrum only):
dutch test pressing 12":

4) Italian "Substance" CD (GDC Records?)

One bootleg includes both songs from this session:

Greatest Hits CD
Love Will Tear Us Apart can be found on this bootleg:

Love Will Tear Us Apart 7" pic disc








(15) "Closer" sessions
Britannia Row Studios, Islington, London. March 18-30, 1980
Producers: Martin Hannett
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
ATROCITY EXHIBITION Closer Joy Division teamed up with Martin Hannett again for the recording of their follow-up to the highly acclaimed debut album.

These sessions arguably produced the best work of both band and producer.


The strain was clearly beginning to take its toll on Ian Curtis by now, which is reflected in the vocals as well as the lyrics.


ISOLATION Closer
PASSOVER Closer
COLONY Closer
A MEANS TO AN END Closer
HEART AND SOUL Closer
TWENTY FOUR HOURS Closer
THE ETERNAL Closer
DECADES Closer
KOMAKINO Fac 28 flexi
INCUBATION Fac 28 flexi
AS YOU SAID Fac 28 flexi
LOVE WILL TEAR US APART Love Will Tear Us Apart Song reworked - see below

The version of "Love Will Tear Us Apart" is the same as the one recorded during session no. 14 (see above), but Hannett needed more time to work on the song, mainly on mixing Ian's vocals. Whether any parts of the song (e.g. the vocals) were re-recorded in whole or part at Britannia Row during the "Closer" sessions remains unclear.

The following bootlegs include one or more songs from this session:

Komakino 7" flexi-disc, green "test pressing" (pirate issue?)
Closer LP Brazilian 10-track counterfeit (JD-10006)
At The Moonlight Club LP - As You Said
Greatest Hits CD - Isolation / Passover/Decades/ LWTUA
Warsaw CD (RZM JD01) - As You Said
Warsaw CD (DIYE 72) - As You Said
WARSAW-Warsaw CD - As You Said
Joy Division book+7" - Komakino / Incubation / As You Said
Joy Division book+3"CD
All The Lyrics book+CD - Komakino / Incubation / As You Said
House Of Dolls LP Isolation










(16) Rehearsal room "session"
T.J. Davidson's Rehearsal Studios, Manchester [Note 3] April 1980 [Note 1]
Producer: Unknown
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
CEREMONY Heart And Soul Rough rehearsal recordings which became New Order songs
IN A LONELY PLACE [Note 2] Heart And Soul

Notes: The official story is that these two songs were recorded on cassette at JD's rehearsal room, and Peter Hook dug the tape out of his collection in time for the "Heart And Soul" boxset.

However, we don't think they were recorded on the same occasion. Ceremony runs a bit slow and is in stereo while In A Lonely Place is the right speed but in mono. We reckon the two songs were probably recorded on different tape recorders at different times.

Note 1 It has been stated that these two songs were recorded only days before Ian's untimely death in May 1980, but on this version of "Ceremony" it sounds like Barney is having a little bit of trouble with his guitar part, and Ian's voice is noticeably faltering as if he hasn't figured out how to sing it yet. This would indicate that these two songs most likely date back to April 1980, and recorded prior to the Birmingham University gig on May 2nd, 1980 as featured on "Still". They all sound a lot more confident in their delivery of "Ceremony" on "Still" (even if Ian's vocals are inaudible during the first verse due to his microphone not having been turned on in time), as if they by then had run through the song a few more times in rehearsals and figured out how they wanted it to sound.

Note 2 This old rehearsal room tape even runs out during "In A Lonely Place", or so the story goes, the final verse is missing on "Heart And Soul" anyway. According to others there IS a full version, but the final verse was deliberately omitted for reasons of "taste". While this seems unlikely to us, the fact remains that the song "Fades" out in two steps rather than being cut off because the tape ran out. Maybe someone just pressed "record" by mistake later on?

Note 3 According to the "Heart And Soul" box these tracks were recorded at Graveyard Studios, Prestwick, but it's more likely a case of these songs having been mixed or "cleaned up" at this studio, by person or persons unknown. Listening to these songs there is little to suggest that they were recorded at a professional studio to begin with. It is also a bit unlikely that Joy Division would have decided to record yet more songs so soon after the "Closer" sessions, keeping in mind Ian's fragile health at this time, with several concerts having to be cancelled.


These songs can be found on the following bootlegs:

Soul And Heart LP both songs
House Of Dolls LP Ceremony
In A Lonely Place can be found on this bootleg:

Love Will Tear Us Apart 7" pic disc








(17) "Still" session
Britannia Row Studios, Islington, London. Some time in 1981
Producer: Martin Hannett
Tracks 1st official Release Notes
THE ONLY MISTAKE Still Martin Hannett reworked unfinished tracks from the Unknown Pleasures sessions.
WALKED IN LINE Still
THE KILL Still

Notes: This was, for obvious reasons, not a regular "session" as such. These songs were already recorded, but apparently never completed during the "Unknown Pleasures" sessions in April 1979 (see session no. 7 for more details). In 1981 Bernard Sumner went into the studio with producer Hannett to add some guitar to these "unfinished" tracks. According to some sources Peter Hook was also present to add some bass to "The Only Mistake".

We think Something Must Break may have been re-mixed during this session as well - the version on Heart & Soul is different to the one on Still

One song can be found on the following bootleg:

WARSAW-An Ideal For Killing LP - The Kill










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CREDITS: Information used in the above sessions listing has been taken from the following sources:

the booklet accompanying the "Heart And Soul" boxset, London Records 1997,
"Record Collector" magazine No. 221; "JD studio recordings guide" by Mark Paytress, January 1998,
Mark Johnson's "An Ideal For Living" book, Proteus Publishing 1984,
as well as bits and pieces of information picked up from various JD record sleeves, music papers/magazines/fanzines and books, far too many to be mentioned (or remembered!).